Vegetarian or Omnivore?

Vegetarian or Omnivore? You are about to read perhaps one of the most provocative & illuminating articles I’ve ever come across (parts 1 & 2) on this often very charged subject from the people who communicate with the animals themselves.

That is, spiritual people who love & revere animals as sacred divine beings who live in harmony with us & the world.

While I have my own thoughts on this, the most important contribution I can make from my own current wisdom is to caution people about being too rigid in their opinions.

Vegetarians, vegans, macrobiotic people etc., can tend to be very judgmental toward those who don’t follow their diet of choice.  Even to the exclusion to not wanting to hang out or be friends with those who don’t follow their way of eating.

And yes, omnivores can and are just as fundamentally dogmatically judgmental as well toward vegetarians, vegans etc.  So again, I caution you, ask you to consider softening  or suspending your judgments if you can.

Finally, the most profound spiritual and esoteric way to really get to the bottom of this is to simply ask the animals themselves.  Not everyone can go to that place in believing we can actually commune & talk to animals in a universal language.

I get that we are not at a place yet in mainstream and sometimes even non mainstream society where we are open to this possibility.

In this sense I ask your open mindedness and open hearted indulgence.

I took a workshop with world renowned animal communicator and author Penelope Smith some years back.  I remember her telling me that when she was at the Findhorn Foundation a story about asking animals if they could be eaten.  In this case it was goats and the answer that the goats gave varied from animal to animal.

Some said “No”  others said “Not now but later.”  Some said “Yes & would be honored to give their lives to people who were so respectful to the animals wishes.  So enjoy a most provocative and fascinating discussion. Vegetarian or Omnivore?

Used with gracious permission from Penelope Smith from:www.animaltalk.net www.specieslinkjournal.com .

Summer & Autumn 2009 Issues 75 & 76

Vegetarian or Omnivore? That is the Question – Part 1

This is a very touchy subject. I am approaching this issue with much trepidation, but I have to bring it up. I am not an animal communicator, but would like to be, and want very much to believe that it is possible. I have used animal communicators for many years for my own animal family. I am still skeptical, but not because I have been dissatisfied with the results of the consultations I have experienced.

My problem is that I find I can’t trust in a process practiced by people who believe they are speaking to animals, but have no compunction about raising their fellow beings simply to slaughter and eat them. I know I am not the only vegan outside the animal communicators’ circle who has raised the same question. It seems to me that it would serve the animal communication community well if there were an honest discussion as to why so many communicators can eat an animal that they can talk to.

I was hoping you would consider having those listed on your directory declare their dietary habits. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but this is a very big issue for me, and I presume for others, too. If one of the purposes for animal communication is to improve the welfare of animals, it seems reaching out to the vegan community would strengthen your cause. Jean Engstrand Buddha & Susan Stephan

The Species Link community of Animal Communicators wrote many lengthy, articulate, and thoughtful replies to this month’s Voice of Experience question. For many, it was a welcome chance to re-explore their belief systems and decisions related to being either a vegetarian or an omnivore. Some of their abbreviated comments about this month’s question included: “Excellent, thoughtful question.” “Worth exploring.” “Thanks for bringing it up.” “This is a wonderful question.” “Thank you for this opportunity to face difficult choices.” “I appreciate your sensitivity to the plight of animals that we both talk with and consume.” “It’s a good question and one I’ve wrestled with myself.”

Why I Chose….

Dexter Del Monte

“Killing living beings?” I reminded my Zen teacher, who by law had to exterminate termites in order to sell his house. “We live in an imperfect world,” he said, “and we do what we have to do.”

Each one of us has her own path to follow; own lessons and karma. And, as Carolyn Myss refers to it, our “sacred contracts,” agreements made with others before we take birth. Most importantly, every individual lives his or her own truth. We can’t judge what others do. We don’t know what is right for them, or what contracts they have made, and for what purpose they have made them.

My colleagues tell me that animals have given consent to be consumed and that by consuming them there is an energy exchange. True, every being that is alive depends on another being for survival. Yet who among us wants to die? We all fight for life. Every being wants to be free of suffering.

Not eating animals who are unnecessarily tortured and brutally slaughtered against their will does not free us from a karma-free diet. If we want to get picky, slaughtered animals are in everything we consume and use. Rendered in the food we feed our companions, in homeopathy and Chinese herbs, medications and chemicals tested on innocent laboratory animals. Even refined sugar is processed using animal bones. The list goes on. We all have blood on us. It’s impossible not to.

Like everyone else, I live my truth, and have chosen to live a vegan lifestyle. I use the word “lifestyle,” because being vegan is a practice of ahimsa, or nonviolence.

It was not easy to stop eating meat in a world that socially accepts it. I became “vegetarian” in 1978; the word is in quotation marks, because during the early years I still ate fish. At the time, not eating meat had nothing to do with health or animals. It had to do with being anorexic in a ballet company and having little money for groceries. I lived on granola, yogurt, peanut butter, lettuce, beer, drugs, and cigarettes. After three years I could no longer get red meat down. I tried and tried for one whole year. It tasted like the smell of an animal’s wet fur, if you can imagine that. I stopped chicken in 1989 for the same reason.

Then I started my Zen practice in 1994 and took Buddhist vows; no killing or creating suffering for others. I then stopped fish, dairy, cheese, and eggs. I love cheese and fish, but watching PETA’s “Meet Your Meat” and a more comprehensive documentary on YouTube, entitled “Earthlings,” strengthened my commitment. I stopped wearing leather, wool, silk, and no longer use honey. I buy only “cruelty free” cosmetics and household cleaners, eat only dark chocolate and burn soy candles.

Being vegan is a privilege! Choice is a luxury. I don’t have to kill a chicken to feed my family. I can make a spirulina smoothie in my Vita Mix. Meanwhile my environmental friends are down on me for buying faux leather (plastic) shoes. I purchase, when possible, American-made, man-made materials and buy only what I absolutely need.

What I don’t understand is the hierarchy in the food chain. A wildlife sanctuary that rescues tigers, lions, and chimps hosts a gala celebrity fundraiser and serves the “lower animals” for dinner. Wearing leather, they protest the wearing of fur. We are horrified that cats and dogs are raised for food and skinned alive for fur in some parts of China and Korea, yet we do the same here to intelligent chickens, pigs, and cows. Why don’t we slaughter horses and dolphins for their flesh? Eagles instead of duck? Eat our pets? Who decides whose life is more important? All beings deserve a decent life, not just some, and not just us.

I no longer force my lifestyle on others, nor deprive my cats of a diet that they are designed to eat. They are true carnivores, with razor teeth for ripping, strong stomach acid for digesting meat and short digestive tracks for eliminating it. I feed them raw meat, shipped from New Zealand where animals at least roam free. We all have blood on us, and we do what we have to do.

As my Zen teacher put it, “Everyone draws their line.” He then sliced his finger through the air and said, “I draw mine here. Where do you draw yours?”

Kumari Mullin

For spiritual, health, and animal rights reasons I have personally struggled with this issue for over thirty years. Mostly I have been vegetarian, and then fish only and back to occasional meat-eating.

It’s funny how things happen. After more than twelve years of strict vegetarianism, I was cooking for my dog as I always did and the smell of meat overcame me. I ate some of the chicken, deciding I wanted to hide the transgression and not tell a soul.

The very next day, I received a frantic call from a long-time client, who was sobbing. Without explanation, she asked me point blank “Do you eat meat?” I was amazed. I thought, is there a hidden camera in here or something? Twelve years “clean” and the first time I taste meat I am instantly “outed.” My mind was racing how to answer, as I was not feeling very proud of myself at that moment. I asked my client why she wanted to know. She said she was at dinner (ordering steak) with a woman who raved about how no one who eats meat could love animals and certainly, no real animal communicator could be anything but vegetarian or vegan. “Do you think this is true?” she sniffled, clearly hurt and confused by the exchange.

So I shared my journey, leaving out any judgments about what was right or wrong. I even confessed my previous day’s weakness.

The teaching was as much for me to not judge myself so harshly and to see how we sometimes use these “black and white” issues to cause unnecessary pain and suffering to one being, even as we espouse a compassionate agenda for another being (the animals, for example). As the years go by, I have less and less judgment and opinion, thank God, and more and more wonder and awe at life and all of its dilemma and appearances.

My first eye-opener occurred in the early 1990s while I was living in a spiritual community which was vegetarian. I was very proud of that fact, and there was definitely some ego in this. My first year there I had bronchitis several times and was almost hospitalized for pneumonia. One night I had one of those revelatory dreams which was quite vivid and, frankly, shocking:

I was walking my dog in the forest all alone and we were both starving. Off in the distance we smelled meat cooking and I began drooling with the aroma. When we came to the clearing, there was an open fire with a chicken grilling. I reached over to take some for my dog and I jumped back horrified: the chicken was half alive in the front, and cooking in the back! I was so nauseated, I couldn’t think of eating, but I did feed my hungry dog. We kept walking and I couldn’t get the gruesome sight out of my mind. I then heard a voice coming from the heavens, asking “Why did you not eat what was offered?” I replied that I was horrified. The voice continued: “Didn’t you wonder how the chicken got to be there, cooking itself on a barbeque in the middle of the forest?” “No, I didn’t,” I replied. The voice finished with this teaching: “The chicken’s spirit saw you and your dog starving in the depths of the forest, and it came to offer itself to you, yet you refused its offering.”

I thought about this a great deal and about all my judgments about meat-eating. I began to see that there may be a bigger picture than what I had considered. I felt guided to order chicken for lunch that day and immediately felt better, and stopped getting bronchitis. It felt totally right in that moment, though I continued to be a vegetarian for many years, but without quite so much righteousness. It helped me to stop judging things from my own small ego perspective, and allowed me to see that there may be a grand design here that I still did not totally understand.

Years later, the issue came up again with a Native American shaman. He related an amazing story: He had also been starving (for real) and entered a sweat lodge to pray for guidance and support. After several days, he heard something moving around outside in the woods, and when he left the tent to check on it, he found a large moose standing there facing him calmly with his neck stretched out.

Then the shaman stopped speaking. I had to ask him, “So what did you do?” He said, “I ate it of course. It was presenting itself as an offering and an answer to my prayers. The moose never moved when I cut its throat.” A bit shaken by the imagery, I immediately thought of my dream.

A similar issue came up again a few years ago when I wanted a sheepskin rug for meditation. I wondered if it was okay and by now I knew I could ask the sheep directly what they thought. I received a very clear answer:

I do not care what is done with the flesh after I am gone. It is not who I am. In fact, I would be honored if the skin served you in your meditations; it is a very holy use indeed, and I am grateful to be of service in that way.

In a somewhat related incident, my dog Suki surprised a squirrel only two feet away on a log, and they both froze, just staring at each other. It was my great luck to be right in the middle of them. Suki loved to chase squirrels, and on occasion, though I did not approve, Suki had killed a squirrel or two. I expected an intense hungry predator kind of feeling from my dog and a fearful prey feeling from the squirrel.

What I actually felt was shockingly different. I felt unbelievable waves of love flowing from Suki and the squirrel, along with great respect, curiosity, and awe that they were able to be so close and observe each other without moving. It was truly remarkable, like they had a great reverence for all the fun they provided each other. I got totally high with the warm loving vibrations.

Nedda Wittels

I eat meat and I don’t have a problem with doing so.

When I speak with my Higher Guidance about this issue, I am told that at the vibrational level where the Earth, humanity, and animals are living right now, consumption of animal flesh is necessary for the physical good health of most humans and, indeed, all carnivorous species. Because we are all living in “duality,” the concept of predator and prey is, by definition, a normal, natural, and even necessary part of our existence. There are certain animal species that require meat to survive, and humans, to be truly healthy, are one of those, with a very few exceptions.

I have been told by Higher Guidance that each being takes form to do service for others. The beings who choose to come to the Earth in this service are to be honored, respected, and thanked. When we express gratitude for their service to us, we are providing an appropriate energy exchange that helps keep the balance of Nature that duality requires for universal well-being in this dimension.

Sage Lewis

Having been a vegetarian for the past eighteen years, I’m sensitive to this topic and appreciate the platform to share.

Long before I started my work with animals, I became a vegetarian. My greyhound, Gabby, made me do it. As I watched her run in a huge field 18 1/2 years ago, I smelled hamburgers and brats grilling nearby. Looking back at Gabby, the scent became a reminder that she was “moving” meat. For me, it was a very conscious decision to stop eating red meat immediately, and I never looked back. I also felt incredibly balanced from making a simple shift in my diet.

About a year later I stopped eating chicken, turkey, and fish as well, going through the process slowly to see how my body would react. I have been blessed with a blood type and body chemistry that has done well without hardly any animal products and at the same time, my spiritual practice has reminded me to listen to what my body is asking for in order to be balanced. For two months, I cut out all dairy products and I didn’t do well. When my lean body started craving cheese, I listened.

As I age, I am noticing a slight craving for fish and eggs and I’m feeling challenged about what to do. I’m clear that if I make another shift in my diet, I will do it with the utmost respect and consciousness. What my spiritual practice has taught me is that we’re all connected. Plants, animals, trees, humans, rocks—we’re all on the same level; there is no hierarchy. If I could stop killing plants, I would, but for now, the best I can do is to make a conscious choice about everything that I put in my body so that I can be as physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually balanced as possible.

Griffin Kanter

When I started communicating with animals in the 80’s, I made the choice to eat meat. My choice was based on my body’s needs and I continue to eat meat. My belief, as is the foundation for books such as Eat Right for Your Blood Type, is that certain people can be vegetarian and be healthy and others can’t.

Another aspect of my choice is that animals do not come into physical form as victims. Each animal is on its own spiritual path and chooses different life experiences to accomplish his/her goals or purpose. Animals, on the whole, can choose when to leave the body during the death experience.

Having talked with plants, fish, amphibians, reptiles, and insects, I don’t think the only way I can honor a life form that I have talked with is to refrain from eating it. I came into the world in a physical body and I have to feed and maintain this body until I die. I choose to honor all life forms that I eat daily, including plants and animals, by saying a prayer to thank them for their life-giving energy. It’s good that we’re seeing more humane regulation in the treatment of animals to be slaughtered. My hope is that one day those industries will function from the space of compassion and gratitude.

April Prager

This is a very personal decision for people.

I was a vegetarian for ten years when I was younger and I have always talked to animals. It’s extremely important to get enough protein as a vegetarian, and I happen to have a very delicate constitution. In the 1980′s I had a lot of health problems and I found an acupuncturist to help me, and that led me to a study of Chinese medicine. The acupuncturist told me I really needed to eat some animal protein to get well. I was resistant, but finally tried to add a little to my diet and it was extremely helpful, greatly improving my health. I also worked for an acupuncture clinic, helping to treat many vegetarians. Some did okay without meat and others never got well. They looked very pale and gaunt and much older than they were.

Because of my great love for animals, this has been an emotional process evolving over the years. Sometimes I am comfortable with my decision to eat meat and other times I am not. I eat a very small amount of animal protein and am still 75% vegetarian. I am grateful for the animals’ help with my health and give thanks. I work with this all the time and offer my support, education, and compassion to anyone considering either lifestyle.

Lisa Shaw

I had three dreams years ago in which pigs (I love pigs!) came to me and said, “Please don’t eat us.” The third time I had this dream, I got serious and have not eaten pork. A few months ago I gave up beef. I’ve tried vegetarianism three times in my life, the longest period being six months, and suffered some health issues. In the next phase I will slowly remove birds from my diet.

However, I am deathly allergic to soy and have anaphylactic reactions to any soy protein. I have the hospital bills to prove it! For some of us, vegetarianism is not an option, despite our highest intentions.

The Universe is full of irony, and the earthly contradictions presented to us provide us with the challenges we came here as human beings to confront.

Jenny Shone

When someone asks me why I don’t eat meat I reply, “I won’t eat anything that I can talk to.” So in answer to the question, I am an animal communicator who doesn’t eat meat of any kind.

Diane O’Callahan

For the past twenty years, I have been involved in animal welfare: working at a zoo and at the SPCA as a Humane Education Director. In addition, I own a pet sitting service and have a practice as an Animal Communicator.

In my experience in each of these venues, I was unable to eat animals because I was taking care of them: Silkie chickens, fish, big cats, and birds. While at the SPCA, I conducted presentations about the factory farming industry that exposed animals to extremely cruel living environments and harsh slaughter on a daily basis. Thinking about their tortured lives and the level of adrenaline in their systems, I decided not to eat any animals for their welfare as well as my own. During my research at that time, I read that wild animals sense whether we are vegetarians or not and tend to welcome us more readily in communion when we are not eating animals.

As time went on, I left the SPCA, and I started to feel unwell and happened to attend a lecture focusing on certain blood types that needed to eat animals. I began eating only animals certified as having a free-range lifestyle, like chicken and fish. At each meal I thanked the animals for their sacrifice on my behalf but never felt good about eating them. I felt sad during every bite, although I felt better physically.

Morally, ethically, and emotionally, I was conflicted about the decision to eat chicken and fish again. As I continued to read and think about this dilemma, I found material to justify either side.

I am not in agreement with eating animals and know that their slaughter does not promote the harmony that we all seek in the world today. I made a heart decision to once again not consume animals and this has helped me to feel more peaceful and connected me to animals in a much deeper way. For me, it was not a health-body decision, but a heart decision.

 

Elizabeth Anglin

To answer this wonderful question, I would like to relate a very poignant experience I enjoyed while teaching and mentoring another Reiki Master who is a vegan. While I am no longer a vegan nor an ovo-lacto vegetarian (due to severe health problems related to starch, gluten, grain allergy, and sugar metabolism) both my student and I have similar interests in Esoteric Tibetan and Zen Buddhism, where the teachings encourage us to consciously generate the energy of compassion for all beings and to avoid killing them.

In Esoteric Buddhism, it is suggested that practicing a selective form of vegetarianism will help most students achieve a clear “diamond-like” consciousness necessary for healing oneself and others, to have conscious realizations, and eventually attain the state of enlightenment. However, Esoteric Buddhist (unlike Exoteric Buddhist) teachings also state that practicing a strict vegetarian diet is not a rule for purifying consciousness or for generating and maintaining the energy of compassion. There are esoteric meditation, mantra, and mudra practices that can be performed to help purify any negative karma gained from eating meat (or other negative actions) and help one attain enlightenment in this lifetime. In my experience, the ability to perform animal communication depends upon a clear form of consciousness that is most easily achieved through practice of these esoteric means, as well as through maintaining my health.

The information I most want to share with you, however, comes directly from an animal communication regarding humans, meat-eating, vegetarianism, veganism, and cats.

My vegan student wanted very much to have a cat and felt one was waiting in spirit to come to her, but her partner insisted that he would only accept a cat in his home if they strictly fed it a vegan diet. Even though my student was committed to her personal path of veganism, she felt a cat had a chance of eventually becoming ill or unhappy on a vegan diet, and that it would be cruel to get a cat that might not be allowed to be thoroughly healthy and well. She asked me to check to see if there was a cat in spirit waiting for her, and if there was such a cat, did it have an opinion on the subject of her partner insisting that it be fed a vegan diet?

I was immediately greeted by an exuberant, extremely intelligent grey tabby in spirit. He was excited to speak, and because my student had mentally been asking the question for so long, the cat did some research through time-traveling in the astral plane. He explained the situation of cats and veganism this way:

Yes, you are correct. While I would survive for some time on a vegan diet, I would feel a lack of energy and vitality and ultimately I would succumb to more lethargy than necessary. I prefer not to be made a vegan cat, but I still want to be your cat! Please tell your partner, we cats are never going to become vegetarians or vegans. But all human beings will!

This cat then showed me a picture of time moving forward. I saw human beings moving with the earth into a much warmer environment with less biodiversity, and more environmental catastrophes related to that warmth. This warmer environment encouraged humans to evolve into plant eaters. The cat continued:

All human beings are in the process of evolving into vegetarians and vegans, but some are still struggling with bodies and food desires that are adapted for the ice ages and hunting and gathering. Not everyone is evolving at the same rate. Vegans and vegetarians are evolving faster, and the ones you see now are on the leading edge of this evolution. Everyone else will catch up within the next two centuries. And we cats will have an important role to play in this new world of vegetarian humans! Doodlebug photo by Starr Taovil

The cat’s picture then shifted, and I found my consciousness merged with a woman walking with a male companion into a corn field at twilight. The field was full of beautiful butterflies and moths that flew up and around us as we entered the field. The cat was at my feet, where he rubbed up against my leg before dashing off into the corn field with many other cats to hunt mice. My consciousness then lifted out of the woman and moved over the field and the land, where there were many fields, with countless butterflies and beneficial insects and numerous happy, hunting cats running up and down the rows of corn.

The scene was beautiful and stunning. It reminded my student and me that we will always live within an ecosystem on this planet and we will always benefit from the balance of life being maintained by predators hunting and eating prey. Increasing and promoting biodiversity while creating human food production systems that work with our fellow beings along with their roles within healthy ecosystems is the goal we should be striving for and that we will ultimately attain. If we cannot be accepting, compassionate, and nurturing of the roles and spirits of predator and prey animals in hunting and being hunted as they are designed to do within a balanced ecosystem, than we cannot become any more “conscious” than the short sighted over-controlling human beings who have so far created environmental chaos and mass extinction.

The cat then advised:

If the leading edge of the vegan/vegetarian evolution does not choose to understand and accept that their personal diet is an evolutionary path of mankind, and that others are in different stages along this path, then they may feel needless anger and frustration with their fellow humans, as well as with their fellow predator animals. Do not worry about where other people are on the path right now. Everyone will get there. Everything is going to work out beautifully.

 

Suzan Vaughn

As I continue to evolve, I notice that what I choose to eat is now over 90% vegetarian. Although I still enjoy the occasional fish or fowl, red meat has lost its appeal for me and living with a vegetarian husband helps to turn my focus toward living foods. When I do partake of a chicken salad prepared by a friend or some other food that includes animals, my goal is to stay fully conscious and grateful for the gift while moving toward the healthful lifestyle that best serves my personal nutritional needs. I embrace my vitality and ask my body what it needs in the moment to give it the best nourishment possible.

 

Charmaine LaBold

As an animal communicator and a vegetarian (formerly vegan for five years) Jean’s question has been an issue I’ve struggled with and the reason why I lived for five years as a vegan. My short response is ALL things are made of energy—plants and animals alike.

If we don’t nourish our physical bodies by consuming animals or plants how do we continue to physically live the blessed gift of life in our bodies?

Years ago, I was weeding out the flowerbed and a cluster of wise weeds helped me come to terms with my sadness at ending their lives. I felt an overwhelming sense of sadness and found myself sitting in the middle of the flowerbed in tears. A feeling of calm began to build from within, and I knew that the weeds were reaching out to me with a special message. As I welcomed this feeling/knowing, my understanding became more clear. These lovely weeds helped me understand that their purpose in the short time they were rooted in my flower bed was to connect with me, bringing me a better understanding of plant life.

As I shop at the market, select my purchases and prepare meals, I make an effort to remember the beauty of the food in its natural state, remaining respectful and grateful for the nourishment provided by the plant’s or animal’s contribution.

 

Joanna Seere

The longer I work with animals, and the more I learn about and witness the lives and deaths of animals used for food, the clearer it has become to me that I can ethically make no choice other than to become vegan.

I have worked with many farm animals rescued from slaughter houses and pens, witnessing their terrible suffering and assisted them in their fight to regain their lives. I have supported them in releasing the trauma that they carried, sat with them in their pain and held them in their healing. I have listened to the stories of their suffering and of the suffering of their brothers and sisters. I have witnessed their rebirths into joyous lives and prayed at the times of their deaths. The plight of animals in the food industry has touched me deeply. I am moved by their unbridled desire to live in joy and peace and their ability to forgive, open their hearts, and trust humans again.

Each life and each soul of the ten billion animals slaughtered each year matters to me. I dedicate my choice of being vegan to the lives and souls of all these animals.

We’re All Animals Eating Each Other Dream photo (c) Earthfire Institute

Shirley Scott

Would you judge the lion who eats the zebra? The cat that eats the mouse or bird? The wolf that hunts and eats the rabbit? Do we condemn the dolphins for eating tons of smaller fish? The animal kingdom is one of eat or be eaten. We share at least 85% of our DNA with the rest of the animal kingdom, so why is everyone surprised when we act like them in many ways? DNA is a large ruling factor in any life form from living to dying, from eating to communicating.

 

Denise Schultz

There are so many ways to look at this, and most of them are complex and not black and white. My cat Sarva eats animals, both those she kills and those in her prepared food, and yet I am willing to talk to her and her to me. She is not going to change, has no shame, no blame, no guilt, nor should I judge her.

Several months ago, my cat Elsa was eaten, most likely by a bear. That bear is not going to change, and although I would be honored to talk to him, I am currently not open-hearted enough. I’m just too heart-broken to reach out for that information, but I hold a prayer that someday I will be able to overcome that.

Many animals I admire live by eating living beings, like dolphins eating fish. I don’t set myself outside the realm of all these “killers and meat eaters.” The pain that we feel over others who have a different world view than we do, like the bear who ate my cat, can be overwhelming and appear to separate us. Yet animal communication can connect and educate us, no matter where we are along this spectrum.

 

Thomas Cheng

The human body is designed to eat lots of vegetables and some meat. Eating meat is natural and essential to the nutrition of the human body. A lion can talk to a sheep and the lion still eats the sheep because it is designed by the Creator that way. When hunted, the spirit of the sheep quickly leaves the body and reincarnates when it is appropriate.

 

Morgine Jurdan

Nature and animals explain to me that we are all a part of some magical kind of Oneness. Even scientists are now agreeing everything is an extension of one Source Energy. If you take a hair from your head and drop it on the ground, it will eventually compost into soil. Let us say a worm eats that soil and it becomes part of the worm. The worm is eaten by a bird who lives in an apple tree, its excrement becoming part of the tree. The tree grows apples and you eat them and they become part of your body. So hair cells became worm cells, became bird cells and tree cells, and apple cells and human cells once again! Some scientists now tell us we could recreate the entire universe from one cell of anything, because that cell has been everything at one time or another! Neither animals nor plants mind becoming part of our bodies. In fact it is a great joy to do so and see out through new eyes. It is simply a part of the magic.

 

Mary J. Getten

This is a planet where everyone eats everyone else. That’s just how it works here, and animals are very in tune with the natural order of things. Animals understand and don’t judge creatures by what they eat.

All animals can communicate with each other, yet they also eat each other. They don’t have a problem with this. Coyotes can certainly talk to cats, and lions to gazelles, but they eat them nonetheless. There is an agreement in the natural world that some animals are predators and some are prey. The animals all understand that. Humans are also animals and part of this relationship, generally as predators, but occasionally we can become prey, too.

 

Betty Lewis

I think it’s safe to say that no animal communicator endorses animal abuse. However, in Nature, everyone eats someone else, be that plant or animal.

 

Karen Booream

Let me start by saying that trees and plants are some of my closest friends, wisest teachers, and deepest relationships. The main reason I no longer do consultations full time is because of people’s judgments and expectations about me once they found I was an animal communicator.

In the natural world, life and death, eating and being eaten, is a part of all life. When I was a child, speaking and listening to all my animal friends, domestic and wild, I found it very painful when my well-meaning sister would punish the cat for catching a bunny or I had to watch my parents remove a toad from the jaws of a snake. When I asked what the snake was going to eat for dinner, they had no answer other than “something else.”

Death is a part of life. There is a world of difference between an animal suffering needlessly and an animal dying to feed another. When I die, I have often said that I wish they’d lay me out where vultures could pick at my body, worms and microorganisms could dissolve my flesh down to the bones, and mice could gnaw the calcium from my skeleton.

Every time a person breathes in, the body’s immune system is killing thousands of microorganisms in the air. I realized a long time ago that if I were going to stop eating creatures I communicated with, I’d starve quickly. I can’t avoid the fact as a scientist, that every human being is killing living organisms every time they wash their hands, weed their garden, or take an antibiotic.

What’s Right for You

Maureen Harmonay

There are many top-notch animal communicators who eat meat, and I honor each person’s choice in this regard. For me, the decision not to eat the meat of certain animals has evolved over time, starting about fifteen years ago when I lived in a rented home on a farm that raised lambs, sheep, and goats. I loved being in such close proximity to these wonderful animals, and in particular, watching the goofy antics of the lambs, but then found myself utterly devastated when the lambs were shipped off to slaughter each fall. From then on, I never ate another bite of lamb.

My eventual choice to forego the meat of all four-legged animals pre-dated becoming a professional animal communicator. I believe that this choice has enhanced my ability to connect with all animals on a spiritual level.

Until last year, I continued to eat poultry, but on Thanksgiving Day 2007, I stopped eating turkey, and just recently, I’ve stopped eating chicken as well. I believe that my decision was divinely guided and it feels like the right thing to do. While I have acted out of my strong convictions, I would not dream of inflicting my own beliefs on anyone else who doesn’t feel the same way, nor do I think that others who continue to eat meat are worthy of derision.

I have felt uncomfortable at times when I have encountered vegans who seem to consider themselves morally superior to those of us who haven’t completely embraced their point of view. For that reason, I am always hesitant to share my own eating preferences with others who eat meat without any ethical misgivings.

 

Mary J. Getten

In my years of work, I have helped thousands of animals and never once have they asked me what I eat. They are not concerned about our dietary habits. This has been true for the cows, chickens, sheep and pigs that I’ve talked with as well as domestic animals.

 

Betty Lewis

To achieve my own balance and to respect the plants and animals who nourish me, I seek sources where humane treatment is employed and I give thanks to those who work with me towards this end.

 

Plants are People, Too

Mary J. Getten

You can communicate with anything, since everything has consciousness. I also communicate with nature and plants. If I couldn’t eat something that I could talk to, there would be nothing for me to eat! Thank the carrots and beans for the nutrients they give you. Plants have feelings, too.

 

Karen Booream

Some of my deepest, wisest and most joyful conversations have been with plants in my garden and especially the tree beings. I could cry thinking about these conversations with the sheer wonder of it. It is most painful for me to see living healthy trees cut down. It is also taking a life every time we bite into a carrot or harvest a soybean. Now I try to work with the trees and people involved as best I can. This is my way of sharing my abilities as a communicator to help those I love.

 

Karen Craft

I’ve truly struggled over whether to respond to this question. To me, this is a deeply personal issue, plus I know the kinds of firestorms that swirl around it.

All right, I admit it: I’m an omnivore. Though I eat more vegetarian meals, and more fish and fowl than red meat, my body still works best when I include some meat in my diet. Sometimes, not even root veggies can ground me better than a meal with meat in it. And let’s be really honest—I deeply enjoy the taste of meat.

Of course I agree that meat production practices are in direst need of reform. I try to purchase locally produced, organic foods whenever possible. I can commune and converse with vegetables just as easily as with animals, so if the argument is “How can you eat something with which you can talk?” I’d be well on the way to starvation. I’m nowhere near being a Breatharian!

 

Leta Worthington

For those who find eating meat completely despicable and untenable, I would pose the following: If you’re practicing animal communication, either formally or informally, chances are that you’ve had a chance to communicate with the plant kingdom as well. If so, and if you’ve worked with that kingdom in gardening, making herbal essences or flower remedies, or more, then you must be well aware of what a highly advanced kingdom it is.

In my own personal experience, which has included many years of working with flowers and plants, it is the most highly evolved kingdom on our planet at this time, with the highest vibration level. It has been proven and documented that plants respond and react intensely to their environment, music, prayer, and words. They exhibit what we would call pain when treated poorly or carelessly trimmed. Yet no one seems to argue that plants should not be eaten, or that it is cruel, inhumane, and immoral.

 

Anita Curtis

I believe that we all come into this lifetime with a purpose. Many of the animals come with the purpose of nurturing others, either humans or other animals. In some cases they have chosen to nurture by providing their bodies as food. They live a short life here and then return to the place that is perfect, knowing they have done the work they chose to do.

I do not eat red meat, so I do not believe this in order to make excuses for my dietary choices. I have spoken to flowers and vegetables who I know are intelligent, but I choose to eat them to nourish my body. Is that any different than eating meat?

 

Betty Lewis

Some people do not thrive on a diet of total plant material. The evolution of certain peoples’ heritage gears their metabolisms to eat in a certain way. Plants are people, too, in a way, so eating them isn’t any more or less ethical than eating animals.

 

Nedda Wittels

Everything that exists has consciousness or spirit. I might ask how anyone can eat vegetables when it is so clear that harvesting them kills them, and eating fruit and nuts is like stealing and eating the children of plants. Have you ever had a conversation with a tree or other plant? They are as conscious as the animals. By the same logic that some reject eating meat, one might consider eating plants to be just as cruel and hurtful to plant beings.

 

Lisa Fraser

Shortly after I learned I could talk with animals I went with a friend to decorate some live trees for Christmas. I decorated the shortest one and it thanked me. I wasn’t sure this was possible. So I asked my mentor who told me that yes, in fact trees are great to chat with.

Since then, I have found that I’ve had long discussions with vegetables, fruits, rocks, mountains, or anything with spirit. Some of my most powerful learning experiences have come from things without a face. So what would the writer of this question have me eat?

 

Barbara Molloy

If you believe that you can communicate with anything in nature, which I do, then you accept that we are all sentient beings; not just those that have eyes and a face. So even if you are a vegan, you are responsible for destroying and slaughtering, if you will, plants and trees. What if you step on a bug? In Nature, we are all one. There is no us and them; it’s all us.

 

No Longer Wrestling with the Question

Teresa Wagner

I became a vegetarian because of the great love of a whale who spoke to me about this issue in 1988. He helped me see that to be whole, I must love all species, and cannot knowingly act in ways that create harm for any of them. I have learned from him that for me to love some species and harm others is damaging to my heart and soul.

Since then, I have found that I can’t be aware of the suffering of an animal, or a group of animals, turn my back to this suffering, and remain at peace. If I participate in harming animals, it harms me too. This includes what I eat.

I ate what my culture taught me was appropriate, acceptable, and expected without thought. Everything changed when I saw my first whale. I was on a weekend jaunt with a friend just to have a few days away. The whale watch trip was an incidental activity (or so I thought) of the weekend. I had no great interest in whales before that day, and knew nothing about them. But when I saw the one who came right to our boat and stayed, I immediately knew I was in the presence of family and a wise elder.

I believe we all have certain animals (or people) who help bring us to the truth of who we are, and to remember the core of our spiritual identity. My heart exploded in joy, in recognition, and in love when I met this whale. It was as if the whole world opened up to me in an instant. I sobbed just being in his presence, telling him over and over how much I loved him and thanked him for bringing his trust to us, the very species who all but wiped out his species with our monstrous years of whaling. As he was about to leave from his hour long visit by the boat, he gently and very non-judgmentally said to me,

Thank you for loving us. Thank you for opening your heart to us. And as you go home to your land life, we’d like you to think about how you now love us so much, love your cats so much, but still put our cousins the cows, chickens, pigs, and fish in your belly when you don’t need them to survive. You wear our cousin the fox on your back when it’s unnecessary for staying warm.

Still ever so gently, he said, We just want you to think about it. We love you and will be here for you always. You can call on us.

Whale drum face by Christine Holden

That was that. The meat, the coat, and the poisons were gone from my life the next week. For me, the whales were my push into remembering author Machelle Small Wright’s book title that the God in all life matters. From the beautiful small Japanese beetles to the great large whales, they’ve helped me remember that all life is sacred.

 

Jeri Ryan

I became a vegan for ethical reasons long before I became an animal communicator. I was totally new to the Animal Rights movement and I was introduced to it through Peter Singer’s book, “Animal Liberation.” It took only the introduction to wake me up.

I had been a rare tenderloin steak and steak tartar person. It was in the introduction to his book where he laid out in brief all the atrocities that were happening to the animals at that time. That chapter changed my life overnight before I even read the rest of the book. There is a point when the truth is so blatant that it can no longer be denied, and I could no longer deny the harm I was causing. To the best of my ability, I discarded all animal products and anything that represented exploitation of animals from my life.

Keeping abreast of the atrocities is very difficult and very painful. How often have you heard, “I can’t hear about the cruel way animals are slaughtered?” “I don’t want to know about those cruel laboratory experiments with animals. It’s too painful?” It is very, very painful. Yet, the very least we can do for the animals is to know and suffer the awareness of the atrocities they suffer at the knowledge and hands of the self-defined most intelligent animals: humans. Our suffering at that painful awareness pales by comparison.

I have been doing animal communication professionally for over twenty years, and my vegan life style has never changed. However, in those early years, even though I had initially stopped eating meat in the most common form, and I had avoided the use of animal products, I still ate seafood. I clearly did not have my personal and spiritual philosophy together at all. I had not completely emerged from my denial.

One day while driving in San Francisco through a busy commercial neighborhood, I witnessed a delivery person throwing live crabs into a huge bin. It didn’t matter that they landed upside down, sideways, piled on top of each other in distorted and uncomfortable ways. Their claws were bound shut. They could not defend or even put themselves upright. I never ate seafood or fresh water fish again.

I became a vegan because I had discovered that all life is sentient in some way. Acknowledging and protecting the sentience of other living beings is a very good reason for going vegan. One needs no more than that to live within a valid, ethical, compassionate vegan lifestyle. Doing no harm to other living beings by refraining from eating them was indeed enough to sustain my veganism. I needed no more. I had not yet gone any deeper. I didn’t even think of going any deeper. I was satisfied to know that I was honoring and protecting sentient beings.

It all fell into place when I sat on the floor across from a dog I had rescued, waiting to take him to his adoptive home. Those few moments with Simon took me somewhere I least expected to go. As I sat there, I looked into his eyes and suddenly gasped in recognition. In my mind I said, “There’s a soul in there.” He heard me telepathically. He came to me immediately and put his head on my shoulder.

After that I began to recognize the soul in every being, including cows, chickens, fish, reptiles, and insects. It didn’t take much at all to know that anymore. Veganism had finally taken on a spiritual and existential meaning for me. That revelation of the life force or soul present in every living being brought in equality and reverence in the highest sense. While honoring the sentience of animal beings is a very good reason for being vegan, a consciousness of the soul or life force in other animals takes it to a spiritual level. I was happily (and healthily, by the way) settled. That was more than thirty years ago. Grasshopper photo by Starr Taovil

 

Nancy Windheart

Ironically, for me, becoming an animal communicator coincided with shifting away from my previous vegan lifestyle. I have had my own deep journey with this question, and perhaps the understandings I have reached with the help of the animals may be helpful for others who are struggling with this issue.

I remember asking the very same question as Jean when I first started my formal animal communication training several years ago. At that time, I had spent many years working in animal rescue and advocacy, and had volunteered for organizations with strict vegan codes of ethics. I became a vegetarian in my early 20’s, and in my 30’s, adopted a vegan diet. When I began my animal communication coursework, I remember being quite surprised that there were animal communicators who were not vegetarian. I am thankful that many of my colleagues and teachers were willing to have honest conversations with me about this issue, and I came to a greater understanding of the variety of views and determining factors that go into personal lifestyle choices.

By far my greatest educational conversations, however, were with the animals. When I started really listening to what the animals had to say, and put aside my own ideas and agendas about what their lives should be like or were like, my perspective changed, and I realized that my sometimes judgmental and self-righteous ideas were not shared by the animals.

I learned through listening to the animals that they incarnate into food animal bodies for many reasons. Some really appreciate being able to nourish others with their bodies, and know that they can return after their deaths to another type of body and life experience if they choose. Some choose a food animal experience because of karmic issues they are working out, or a desire to have a particular type of life experience. The reasons for these choices were varied and individual. I learned that many animals have a very pragmatic sense of life and death, and that being prey, losing their body so that another may have sustenance, is often not a big deal to them.

I also learned greater love and respect for my own animal body from my animal teachers. Animals taught me to listen more deeply to the needs of my own body, and what was important for my own optimum physical health. Nutritional needs vary by individual, and can also vary during the course of a person’s lifetime. When I really started listening to and honoring my own body, rather than imposing my intellectual ideas about what was “right” on it, I realized that I was much healthier when I included eggs, some dairy, and fish in my diet.

This was a difficult adjustment for me mentally at first, because of all of my ideas about what was “right” and “ethical.” I am much more effective in all that I do, including my animal communication work, by adopting a diet that is healthier for my own particular body. I know some animal communicators whose bodies need to have meat products for optimum health; other people do much better on a vegetarian diet. There is as much individuality in the needs of human bodies as there is in the rest of the animal world, and animal communicators are no different in this regard than any other group of people.

I also had to face the degree to which I was projecting my own unhandled pain onto the animals. Focusing on animal suffering at one time in my life was a mechanism I used to avoid facing the pain that I carried within me. With the animals patiently teaching me and helping me, I learned to face my own pain without projecting it onto them. As I did this, I realized that sometimes I assumed that animals were suffering when, in fact, they were not. This was a humbling and eye-opening experience for me, and ultimately extremely instructive as I sought to deepen my experience as an animal communicator.

This is not to deny the reality of animal suffering in our world, particularly the suffering of food animals in modern factory farms. I do not believe that there is any justification for the cruel practices of modern factory farming, and the unnecessary suffering caused by these practices makes me much more conscious of making ethical choices about the animal products I may choose to consume. It is important to support organic farming, humane treatment of food animals, and in general, to make food choices with conscious awareness of their source. I try to only take what I need, and to do my best to be conscious of the source of the animal products I choose, and also to express gratitude for the gift of anything I take into my body as food.

It is an imperfect world, and our choices are imperfect. What I have learned from the animals is that militancy on any issue really is not helpful and only alienates those we may seek to help. Anytime I make someone else wrong for their choices, I put out more combative energy into the world, which perpetuates more of the same.

What I have learned from the animals is tolerance, respect, and honoring each individual. This has made me a better, more compassionate person toward other humans, and much more tolerant of those whose lifestyles or choices are different than my own. Listening to the animals’ wisdom, benevolence, and understanding of the fragile and temporary nature of physical life has made me much more willing to accept other humans’ choices, and to recognize there are no perfect choices.

 

We all are doing the best that we can.

 

Harley of BrightHaven Sanctuary

 

End of Part 1

 

From the Editor: Part 2 of this thought-provoking conversation will appear in the autumn Species Link. It will include answers to other aspects of Jean Engstrand’s question, which were included in the contributions of animal communicators who have spoken above and other animal communicators’ viewpoints, too.

 

Vegetarian or Omnivore? That is the Question – Part 2

 

Put Eating Habits Online?

Maureen Harmonay

While I understand and respect Ms. Engstrand’s desire to know whether a particular animal communicator ingests meat or animal products, I would suggest that she simply ask the individual. For the Animal Communicator Directory to flag this information feels like an invasion of privacy, and I fear that it would have the unintentional effect of building walls of defensiveness between us as practitioners, and possibly even between us and our clients.

 

Lisa Shaw

I would certainly not ask people in the directory to post dietary preferences. The purpose of animal communication is to communicate spiritually with an individual being or soul, or a group of beings, and is not a political movement. When Spirit speaks to me, I am in that moment guided to do what I am asked, to give information as it comes to me from the animal and spiritual realms, not to create an agenda for all animal communicators.

 

Denise Schultz

Asking us to state our personal eating habits is a request to submit ourselves for judgment. In particular, the wording of “….have no compunction about raising their fellow beings simply to slaughter and eat them,” is not the only mind-set among those who raise livestock.

I know a woman who is a cattle rancher, one of the most spiritual and compassionate beings I have ever known. She has rescued animals (Dobermans, horses, cats, sheep, and cows) for over thirty years. She works 365 days a year, often starting before sunup and finishing after sundown. She cares deeply about giving a good life to the animals she sells at auction to make her living. She freely chose to become a rancher and has to choose it every day, because it is so demanding it would exhaust a lesser person to the point of despair. How many of us care this deeply for the well-being of any of the food we eat—plants, or animals? I have known a lot of farmers and ranchers I admire.

As animal communicators we are not just asked to communicate with humans or animals we admire. I’ve worked with dogs who have attacked humans, even a baby, and animals who have killed another in anger (not for self defense), and with people who neglect or abuse their animals. It is still important to be able to hold a neutral space to make room for whatever healing is trying to arise out of each situation

 

It’s Not the Eating – It’s the Treating: Conscious Consumption

Morgine Jurdan

You can choose to no longer support people who raise animals inhumanely. I only eat meat and eggs from animals who have lived happy lives and who are not fed growth hormones or antibiotics, guaranteed by the health food store I have shopped at for decades. Animals often come to be used for food and become part of our bodies. They are not humans with fur and feathers. They do not think like us and they experience life differently that we do. I truly believe when we stop abusing ourselves and our fellow human beings, everything will change. It is already beginning.

 

Thomas Cheng

I’m not a vegetarian. I believe animals will reincarnate, so dying is not a problem; the problem is when animals are ill-treated on Earth. So I’m against animal-cruelty, and any inhumane way to raise farm animals, like foie gras and caged chickens. Hence I try to only eat certified organic meat. By definition, they are free-range animals who have a good and natural life.

 

Michele Bustamante

My physical makeup does not do well on plant life alone. Of the animal forms I consume, I eat small amounts of eggs, chicken and fish, although I have never eaten anyone I know. I thank whatever flesh I eat, whether it is plant or animal, and am ever so grateful for any being willing to help myself and other beings nourish our bodies. When I purchase any food, I buy from places utilizing humane farming practices, and I make other efforts to promote such methods.

Where I feel we have “fallen,” is in our lack of respect for other beings. Our Native American ancestors communicated with and ate animals. The difference is they held a high level of reverence for all life and when they consumed an animal they also acknowledged the powerful energy that animal transferred to them.

I have found that in order to be more effective in my practice, I have had to drop many beliefs. I also do not view communication with animals or any life form as a “cause,” but rather as a natural part of our existence on Earth. Thus, my eating habits do not deter me from working as an animal communicator.

I hold the space of inner peace and stillness, that there may be Higher Consciousness and healing for our planet, and that those on Earth who are here to assist us with nourishment of our bodies, whether it be plant, animal or any other form, be treated with love, respect and gratitude. Someday I too will be eaten. May it be without judgment and may I nourish other forms just as I have been nourished, my body transferring energy to them and the planet.

 

Lisa Shaw

Indigenous people who have for thousands of years cultivated a spiritual relationship with the animals as teachers and guides and who communicate with them on multiple levels are meat-eaters. Although many tribal cultures no longer need to hunt for survival, they retain their dietary habits. Years ago I attended an intimate talk with a famed Lakota medicine man known for his family’s potent spiritual lineage. When asked about his diet, he said without apology that he ate elk, buffalo, and beef.

The approach to our food, like our approach to any metaphysical endeavor, lies in intent and gratitude, whether that comes as formal prayer, ritual, or thought. Some human beings are biologically suited to be vegetarians while some are not and it is genetically coded and/or a result of thousands of years of geographical adaptation.

 

Tim Link

Native Americans are a great example of how a human can honor an animal and at the same time use them for their needs. I believe in the Native American philosophy of treating all life with dignity and honor.

I have spoken to animals that are used as a food source in today’s society. They seem to understand and accept their purpose here on earth. They have shown me no fear or worry about their mission. They just ask to be treated well while they are here and that we use them to learn and fulfill our mission.

If someone feels that a vegan lifestyle is the right one for them, then so be it. If not, that should be fine as well. All animal communicators want what is best for animals. We work to help them, honor them and respect them every day.

 

Conny Seydlitz Oberdorfer

Many conversations with slaughtered animals of different species have made it clear to me what animals are afraid of and makes their lives hell is not death, but the way humans treat livestock. They suffer in how they are kept, transported, and slaughtered. This is what we are called upon to change and for this reason, I want to know exactly what I eat!

I only eat animals when I know how they were kept, fed, transported, slaughtered, and processed. I try to follow the same procedure with the plants I eat. I also communicate with plants so that I can honor and treat them with the respect that each living being deserves, irrespective of species.

 

Animals Weigh In

Nedda Wittels

As far as I have been able to determine, eating meat is not considered a violation of Higher Law. In fact, Echo, my horse now in spirit, has told me repeatedly that euthanasia of animals is the equivalent of the predator taking down the sick, elderly, and dying prey. It is, in her words, a “gift.” While we don’t eat the bodies of our pets, that is probably due in our society to having sufficient food available. In some cultures, an animal that is slaughtered is greatly honored before and after the killing and during the meal.

 

Amber Donkey through Dawn Hayman

Many feel they do not want to eat meat to honor the animals, and then they condemn and judge those who have made different choices. This does not honor the animals at all. Whatever your choice, it should never be judged by anyone.

Animals understand being eaten. Animals understand the predator/prey relationship. Animals live in relationship to those other animals. In that relationship there is respect, honor, appreciation, and love of life that is passed between the animal being eaten and the one eating of its flesh. It is never taken unjustly, lightly or for granted. No life is ever wasted.

However, most humans are not aware of what they are eating. They do not eat with spiritual awareness. If you did, you would be in relationship to all you eat, plant and animal alike. You would be conscious that for you to live, something lends its life to nourish you. You would thank each and every thing that nourishes you. And in that respect, that life would live on through you. When you are out of relationship with what you eat, then you do not honor what is being given to you.

That is equally true for plant life as well as animal life. There is no difference. Life is life. Plants have conscious awareness. It just looks different to you. I am always thankful to the grasses and grains that have given their lives for me. That thankfulness is a part of who I am, as it is for each and every one of the beings who live with me on this farm.

Animals understand that in the end we all are eaten. Our bodies are consumed by another animal, insects, or earth. It is part of the cycle.

 

Sage Lewis

As I was writing my response, I turned my head to watch my dog, Java curled up in the sun next to me. I asked her opinion and Java responded,

 

Why does it matter? Why do humans worry so much? Just eat what you’re hungry for and if it doesn’t work, then your body will tell you.

 

Barbara Molloy

I had a very strong communication with a friend’s young bull. When I walked up to the bull to say “hi,” the first thing he said to me as he puffed up was, “I am food.” He was well aware that he would be slaughtered soon. He was very proud that he would feed and nourish those that he knew loved him. He felt that he served an important purpose and ate as much as he could to plump up.

I am a vegetarian now. There were times in my life when I ate meat because my body needed it. I have dogs that I feed a raw diet. It is important to me to know where their meat comes from and I support local farmers. I need to know how the animals are raised and how they are treated before I buy meat.

We all choose what form we will take when we reincarnate. We choose our purpose. That bull knew his purpose. He understood his flesh would be consumed. He was also very fortunate to be loved by his family and humanely treated even in his death. We are all sentient beings, a part of the big wheel of life. We are all one.

 

Gaye Rock

I have questioned chickens raised under humane conditions to see how they feel about this subject. Their feeling is that they have had a pleasant life, and it will end at some point. They are not opposed to it ending for the good of someone’s meal.

However, it is quite a different story for those animals raised in terrible conditions where terror is the order of the day. So, I urge other communicators to aid those organizations who look out for farm animals to make sure they are raised and slaughtered humanely.

 

Leiah Bowden

I do eat meat and I enjoy eating lamb. I make an effort to buy only meat that has been slaughtered humanely. Last winter I worked with an exceptionally wise and witty sheep named Hefernan. I went to him for his thoughts on this question. Hefernan said,

I know that you kill my kind to eat lamb, and yet I speak to you with love and the hope that our communication can help build avenues of trust and respect between humans and all other species.

The question of humans eating animals is one I have lived with. We forgive you. We place no value on physical life over the continuation of consciousness without a body. You will promote your own well-being to the utmost because that is the law of natural life: to promote one’s own well-being above the interests of all others. You are animals and you eat what you can.

You do not kill me; you ask me for my help and I am glad to give it because I am interested in building bridges of understanding, not claiming power over your conscience. I will welcome you whenever you come into my fold and will work with you toward my goal, for I see it is also yours.

I am grateful for your work to lessen suffering. If your choice is to further the profits of an industry that causes suffering than I might not welcome you as a friend, but I would welcome you in the work we do together.

Tell this to the woman who asked the question: walking in the unity of one consciousness makes it natural to accept the flaws of others, for we do not have to feel alone in our struggle, or be in a struggle at all.

 

Buffalo through Lyn Benedict

“We honor you, Great Ones! What are your feelings and opinions about being killed and eaten by humans?” Buffalo replied:

We were once mighty and great, roaming the land living our lives in freedom, and giving ourselves to the humans you call Indians so that they could live and roam freely as we did. We were ONE, so it didn’t matter to us whether we lived as buffalo or, having been eaten, becoming life support for others. We were treated with respect and honored. They appreciated us as no humans have since that time.

Now we are a curiosity in a National Park. People stare and try to touch us. Some of our kind is raised for food like they raise cows. Sometimes we are hunted if we stray off of the ‘reservation’ (National Park) or just killed where we stand. Now the hunter, the park visitor, and the rancher never seem to revere, honor, thank, or appreciate us as the Indians once did. That is what we miss! This is what we want!

It is not about eating or being eaten. It is about respect, appreciation and honor. It is the attitude with which we are treated by humans that matters most to us.

Ask the grass or any plant which you eat. They will tell you the same thing. Life wishes most of all to be honored, respected, and appreciated. For we are all ONE! We are all God!

 

Power of Intent

April Prager

Who really knows why some make the decisions they do and why? Most of the time we all project our own thoughts onto others not really knowing what has brought people to the decisions they make. We all have free will and we have to honor that.

 

Shirley Scott

In ALL matters, your intent is the judging or ruling force. We should be able to honor the path of another person even if we don’t agree with it. If someone eats meat, that doesn’t mean they don’t honor the animal kingdom or that they believe in the “slaughtering” of animals. Many people choose to eat meat that is grown and harvested in a humane way. We are starting to get that message across but people have been eating meat, going to war, or participating in other destructive human habits for thousands of years.

 

Judgment, Guilt, & Eating

Michele Bustamante

I used to be quite judgmental about what I put in my body. I ate as a vegetarian long before “vegan” became a coined phrase and the way to go. I not only judged myself, but I judged others who didn’t think like me. I found this energetically constricting and a great ego builder. The more I identified with the label, I am a vegetarian, the more I strengthened my ego and disconnected from my true nature and the beingness of others.

When I started swimming with dolphins and whales, this feeling of separation and judgment would leave me—judgment of food, myself, and especially harsh judgment of other humans. I don’t know of any animals who judge what they eat as humans do.

 

Diane Samsel

Since I have allergies to grains and dairy, I limit my diet to animal proteins, fruits, and vegetables. Many years ago I was conflicted about being a meat eater. Because eating animal flesh was upsetting to me, I once tried, but could not maintain my health on a vegan diet.

Then, while driving in the Rocky Mountains, I came across a herd of cattle grazing in a beautiful pasture. They made a glorious sight. I asked to speak with the herd’s representative and asked this consciousness if it might share with me it’s feelings about being raised for human consumption. The animal soul group leader answered in a serene and lovely voice and informed me that everyone in the herd understood that once the bodies were harvested, the spirits returned to the herd to be reborn. This was how it was and had always been. There seemed to be no stress in the reply.

Since that day I’ve had many talks with animals about death and dying and the importance of the physical body. I have come to appreciate that animals identify more with their spirits rather than their bodies, and have a much longer view of life than we do. It’s birth, life, death, birth, life, death…. like breathing. Prey animals expect to be preyed upon just as hunters need to hunt.

To show my respect, I buy meat that has been humanely raised on a biologically appropriate diet. I avoid factory-raised animals and support efforts to reform our country’s agricultural practices. I have been a food activist since the 1970′s.

I ran South Carolina’s first food coop for many years and during that time taught one of the emerging stars in the slow food movement how to cook. I am into deep ecology and have tremendous respect for the rhythms of nature and the need for me to contribute to a healthier planet.

 

Kathi Sherburne

Jean, I appreciate your concern for the well-being of our animal friends, especially those that are taken for food. While most farm animals expect and deserve to be raised humanely and die quickly, that is not the case with the current mass-production of farm animals. Hopefully, this will change sooner rather than later.

In an ideal world, the “lion would lie down with the lamb” and there would be no predation in order to survive. However, the animals I have connected with are able to leave their bodies before death and the body means little to them once they are in spirit form.

I look forward to a time when eating is no longer required for any living being to survive. Perhaps the endocrine system will take over and make eating and the digestive system a thing of the past. As a communicator and human, I do not like the thought of eating another living thing in order to survive. However, until the time comes (and I believe it will), we have no choice but to eat plants and animals to survive.

The best we can do is respect, honor, bless, and thank those beings whose lives were given to sustain us rather than judging others or carrying guilt over our need to eat to live. Animals are very forgiving and in the case of those that were traumatized by their deaths, I am able to conduct post-mortem BodyTalk sessions on them so their spirits won’t carry over any negative cellular memories should they decide to reincarnate in whatever form they choose.

 

What Would Jesus Do?

Shirley Scott

There are numerous Holy Scriptures that tell us how feasts were given in honor of a guest and that guest would bless the food and give thanks to the grain, the wine, and the beasts who all gave their life to feed the people. Is this something that has been bred into humans for thousands of years?

Eating is something we don’t have to do if we have our energy systems aligned right (just ask the very few Breatharians) or if we have enough faith in our Creator to supply our bodies with what we need from just the air we breathe. However, not many of us are so perfectly aligned and even Breatharians don’t “mistrust” anyone who eats.

So why do we eat? To experience, learn, heal, and grow. You can’t do that in a perfect culture or we would have stayed on the other side where we are perfect without food.

I was reading a book about the life of Jesus and I ran across something he had said to some of the people eating at a Jewish feast. Some of the people were not happy about the meat eating and Jesus said,

Judge not what a person eats for it only feeds the flesh and bone. Look at his heart and thoughts as they feed his soul.

 

Gaye Rock

I have long struggled with the issue of being a vegan in order to communicate with animals. Finally, I decided to do biblical research on the subject. Leviticus 11: 2-3 states: [the Lord said to Moses] “Of all the animals that live on land, these are the ones you may eat.” That chapter goes on to detail the meat and fish that are acceptable to eat. Also, in Luke 24:41-43, Jesus eats fish with his disciples, and he partakes in meals several other places in the New Testament (think loaves and fish).

So my theory is that if God commanded us to eat meat, and Jesus ate meat, they must have provided it for humankind. We are permitted to eat the food God provided for us, as well as the vegetation. And certainly, THEY communicate with animals.

In addition, many people are light meat eaters, only having meat once or twice a week, and many of us work to improve the conditions under which animals are raised for food.

 

Lisa Shaw

Those who are most comfortable in Western Biblical traditions can find compelling arguments on both sides: after the expulsion from Eden, our food source was changed as a divine consequence of disobedience; or, the ideal, as in Eden, is to refrain from killing of any sort for any purpose.

Whether the Bible is myth or metaphor, it carries a potent message. Some Judaic scholars have argued that the purpose of such stringent dietary laws detailed in Deuteronomy and Leviticus were, in fact, God’s way of deterring humans from actually eating meat.

I was surprised to learn that the very spiritual Sikhs have no dietary restrictions and eat everything, viewing it as God-given. The Tibetan Buddhists eat fish. Where does one draw the line? It is an individual choice. As with the environment, every small step one takes to alleviate pain and suffering for an animal should be hailed rather than criticized as “not enough.”

The world creates its own prisons by imposing one view over multitudes. Those who do choose to eat meat can make earth-friendly choices by buying organic (products), free range eggs and chicken, and by avoiding commercial factory farming products.

 

Blessings and Gratitude

Karen Craft

To me, the key to living with myself is radiating intense gratitude to all the living beings that give their substance to nourish me. I beam love to everything I eat, and I leave offerings for my tomato plants and my cherry tree when I harvest their fruit.

Much of my world outlook is colored by my experiences in the shamanic altered state. I once had the honor of being merged in consciousness with a wolf in her pursuit of a rabbit. The kill was not disgusting or violent as we humans tend to perceive it, but was instead a pure exchange of energy. I knew the wolf’s infinite love and respect for the rabbit, and I also felt the love of the rabbit for the wolf. It was an immense honor for the rabbit to leave her body and offer it to feed the pups of this wolf. That shamanic journey forever changed how I view predation.

One of my Siberian huskies, an avid backyard huntress, taught me the prayer she uses when hunting shrews. She says she got it from the Wolf Council and it’s supposed to be for meadow mice, but adapts well for shrews:

Oh, Shrew, exquisite expression of creation, give me your life force in exchange for my perfect love. And, a return of your spirit to God. Thank you.

I faced another dilemma when our ancient fabric couches became too disgusting to tolerate, and we searched for alternatives. The only furniture that could stand up to four huskies and two cats was upholstered in leather. I cringed when I told my vegan animal communicator best friend. However, every single time I cuddle up on those soft couches, I send love to the animals who provided their skins. I seem to flashback to a time I was huddled cozy under a buffalo robe, singing praises to the creature who provided me with that protection from the bitter cold.

My prayer is that we can all work together to improve animals lives who are raised to feed us in addition to promoting a more vegetarian diet.

 

Kathi Sherburne

Every living being requires the life of another in order to survive. Vegans eat plants which also have emotions, feelings, intelligence, and life source energy and many communicators are able to communicate with plants. I bless everything I eat and feed to my animals and thank the being(s) that gave their lives so we may live.

 

Eater and Eaten as One

Laurie Moore & Jessie Justin Joy Jessie

Animals in a respectful situation of predator and prey know that the witness and the one being witnessed are the same being. The one leaving the body and the one eating to sustain the body are the same one. The giving and receiving is of mutual benefit when agreement and honor is acted upon. Ask the animals about this. Talk to individuals! There is none (no-one) essentially—only many appearances from one essence. This is my personal soul experience.

From none comes many an image and each image becomes physical and emotional.

The opportunity of an individual incarnation is to note where and when “I” seems to jump into the reality of the images dreamed up and to give motion, value, and manipulation to this. (Manipulation can be quite ethical, pleasant, and virtuous as well as unethical, distasteful, and lacking humanitarian care.) My comment is not about right vs. wrong but rather an invitation into an awareness that may bring new answers.

Based on the uniqueness of the “I,” there will be more attention placed on manipulation in the mental, the emotional, and/or the physical for desired happy outcomes that the mind thinks rely on particular configurations and circumstances! At some point this is noticed. At this time, grace, attention, or practice takes consciousness of the “I” back to the witness/one being witnessed who is none. This is my personal heart experience.

As this taking back becomes the place of residence, life becomes more and more sweet. Love becomes love loving love and all responsibility to be anyone is dropped. Responsibility becomes an alignment to the witness/one being witnessed, which the animals devote full attention to all day. What the answer is to anything this moment may be a surprise.

Often in spiritual groups there is an assumption that we are supposed to model ourselves after a perfect God/Goddess. Where is one? My finding is that God/Goddess comes from the incongruence. In each being—no matter how devoted, awakened, and aligned with the witness/one being witnessed—imperfect, faulty, non expected behaviors, attitudes or emotions will be revealed. This is the invitation to compassion. This is the door into which human love can walk. This is what animals live.

We all eat and are all eaten. The opportunity to do so in an awareness of love and respect for any with whom we participate in the predator/prey situation (on either side) is available. To forget and think “I” am separate will cause a pain for self and other. This is true whether one is omnivore, carnivore, or herbivore. But in the remembering of the oneness, new answers of peace come. The desire to participate in love rather than scold or preach becomes preferable.

Often I was praised or scolded by assistants who assumed it was my job to be unconditionally loving (to spare them of any inner pain). Either I did it right or I didn’t do it right. Often I saw people of one eating style berate people of another. I have been of both eating styles at different times and judged from both angles.

I have judged the teacher and I have been judged as teacher for all kinds of human vulnerabilities. So now I sit in my heart with no opinions—simply an opening to each wave.

My own karmic pattern allowed this judgment to give rise to emotional hurt in my physical heart many times. This hurt was about what some humans told me was not right but animals accepted as part of life. I felt very trapped and hurt many times in experiencing the judge (i.e., in being the one judged or being the judge or watching others in the roles, too.) I took an invitation I had received from a spiritual teacher/friend and sat deep into all the energies arising from this dynamic between self and helpers.

Eventually it became clear that it was Love’s job to be Love, for Love had no choice and was doing a wonderful job in all occurrences! The being “Laurie” came to study along with all other beings in the dance of duality which was held in the lap of everything. I came to make choices and to be imperfect. I came to honor others in their studies. It became clear that there is only one physical being, one emotional being, and one soul essence. Within this is a deep need to respect one another in our duality roles that exist simultaneously with the oneness we are at heart.

From this I experienced that the witness and the one being witnessed are the same one. There is none. Each brain, heart, and body within this very rich and scented-like-flower petals phenomena, are one organism. There is one witness/one being witnessed. There is one physical organism, one mental organism, and one emotional organism. In the center of this is the void. This is the music of the heart offering an opening door in many waves that can be heard, seen, and felt as oneself.

Each appearing individual being is made of these waves. Deep inside is an eternal musical yet simultaneously silent void composed of joy. From this joy, new answers are available in place of making anyone wrong.

The world is rebirthing herself and we have the opportunity to discover the new answers via the heart. Can we sit silently in this heated topic each MOMENT before knowing what is best for anyone else? Animals do.

 

Eating to Grow Spiritually

Elizabeth Severino Dr Liz & Mr. Smudge

I have decades of experience in studying and writing about the energy and the spirituality of foods, particularly the use of food to accomplish spiritual elevation. I’ve published two books on the subject. I quote the content from my book, Diet to Raise Your Spiritual Level that is relevant to our current discussion. I did research for the book over many years and wrote it in 1996 in collaboration with Rabbi Yosef Serebryanski, a highly experienced Rabbinical Food Supervisor and an expert on the energy of food. I present here basic tenets of the energy of food and the spirituality of eating.

Eating is a daily celebration of the miracle of universal life. Eating allows us to re-affirm our Oneness, our connectedness, to All. Eating provides us two opportunities consistent with and flowing from the duality of our existence as spirit in human form. The first opportunity is to maintain our physical connection with our body. In other words, we eat to be physical, to stay in our bodies, to stay “alive.” The second opportunity eating provides us is less immediately obvious. It is to elevate ourselves spiritually. In exercising this opportunity, we eat to be closer to Spirit, to Creator.

When people eat seeing only the physical value of the food, regardless of what they eat, it pulls them down. When people eat aware of the spiritual value of the food, it elevates them. Awareness and intention are key.

At the physical level, all foods having as their intent to raise one’s spiritual level, must be cleansing. Their purpose is to release spiritual blocks. At the spiritual level, all foods must be energizing, to support growth and the flow of Divine Energy from the Creator.

Humans are composed of consciousness, body, and soul. The mechanisms of our human soul-bodies is so wondrous that everything in our environment affects us—thoughts, words, deeds, the people in our lives, what we do for a living, the geography of where we live and work, how we breathe and move, how and how often we worship or engage in times of sacred contemplation, plus what, and how often, we eat and drink. We have the free will to use our soul-bodies and the soul-bodies of what affects us, including food, in a positive or negative manner.

Therefore, food in its broadest sense comprises anything we assimilate: attitudes, thoughts, activities, air, water, sunshine, companionship, as well as whatever specific substances we ingest primarily by mouth. Everything matters. Everything has conscious life. Everything is composed of consciousness, body, and soul, not “just” people and animals. Everything has Creator energy, everything is spirit in form. Delineating between human animals, non-human animals, plants, etc. is spiritually incorrect.

Spiritually, we are not to cause pain. In all cases, the energy of food must be whole, the product gathered or prepared as kindly and as cleanly as possible, and the original “food-stuff” itself must be free of sickness or toxicity and as wholesome in nature as possible.

A spiritual diet will be a diet reflecting the core concepts of kindness, gratitude, and balance. Cultures very close to nature have known for millennia the importance of asking permission of a food to be consumed. It is part of a humane, kindly approach to the Oneness of all life and an understanding of the food/energy chain.

A truly healthy soul-body can eat anything it wants in moderation because it will be able to “transmute” or change to a supportive energy level occasional foods which may be less quality that normally desirable. The energy of foods such as fresh fruits, fresh vegetables, whole grains, and living waters is the highest. Fresh, wholesome foods, grown locally and personally, and harvested and prepared for consumption on the day harvested, have the highest energy of all.

If you’re in doubt before consuming a food, pause a moment. Sense the food. Ask your body, Should I eat this? Will this food bring me a high level energy? Listen to your body’s reply. Your body will tell you if the food is the proper food for you. Not sure your body will do this yet, or that you’ll actually hear the response? Practice.

Some things in life are profoundly simple. Eat spiritually uplifting foods which nourish the physical body and you will consistently raise your spiritual level. Don’t and you won’t.

Editor’s Overview mandala by Carole Devereux

Here is a summary of the main points that animal communicators expressed in this two-part article in the summer and autumn Species Link issues:

At the vibration level where the Earth, humanity, and animals are living right now, consumption of animal flesh is necessary for the health of many species. Some people feel that humans will eventually evolve into vegans. Others feel that we will evolve to exchange energy without consuming other life forms at all.

Many people function very well eating vegetarian or vegan diets. Many humans find that consumption of animal flesh is necessary to have good health.

Some human beings seem to be biologically suited to be vegetarians while some are not.

Nutritional needs vary by individual and also over the course of a lifetime. Hormonal and other physical changes and emotional stresses can change our nutritional needs and require us to eat different combinations of plant and animal food at different times to feel balanced on all levels.

Honoring and taking care of our own animal bodies (as we do our animal family members) includes eating what helps us to function at our best.

Individual animal communicators have received unique guidance from animals about whether they should or should not eat a particular species or animals in general.

For ethical and emotional reasons, some people avoid eating animals because of how food animals are treated and slaughtered. Even if they feel better physically eating meat, some people find more spiritual harmony in being vegetarian.

Some people feel that being vegetarian helps their communication and spiritual connection with animals. Others find that eating meat enhances their communication with animals due to their own improved physical and mental health and the oneness they feel with animals and the whole cycle of life. Others find their diet has no relevance to their communication with animals.

We are all connected and can communicate with all beings—animal, plant, or mineral. The best we can do is make a conscious choice about what we eat to be as balanced on all levels as possible.

Plants have feelings, intelligence, and consciousness, so ideas about eating animals apply to plants and anything we ingest (including minerals or water). Most animal communicators honor and communicate with all forms of life.

Animals have communicated that they know they are not their bodies and are not attached to the consumption of their bodies after death, even though, they, like all in physical form, seek to survive while alive.

Animals have a pragmatic sense of life and death and understand the predator/prey relationship. There is love, honor, appreciation, and reverence between predator and prey species. Love of life and oneness can be experienced between the animal being eaten and the one eating its flesh. Animals accept that losing their bodies so that others have sustenance is natural. No life is ever wasted.

Animals choose different forms and life experiences to accomplish their own life purposes. All beings come in service to others. Some animals have communicated that they are aware their bodies will be slaughtered for food and are proud to feed and nourish those that love them.

When beings of any species (plant, animal, or mineral) consent to nurture others by providing their bodies as food, this service is to be honored. Honoring our food sources means ensuring as best we can they (animals, plants, minerals, water….) have a good life that meets their needs and a respectful death that minimizes pain and suffering.

Our bodies are consumed by other forms of life and composted by the Earth to become part of other bodies. Neither animals nor plants are troubled by becoming part of others’ bodies. Bodies and body parts (from skin cells and other bodily emanations while alive to our whole bodies on death) continually recycle and become part of other bodies.

Every living being requires the life of another in order to survive. We eat or are responsible for killing plants and animals in our food growing and processing. There is a grand design behind the recycling of bodies through other bodies. The giving and receiving is of mutual benefit. In Nature, we are all one.

Dietary choices do not confer superiority over others or the right to judge.

Animals don’t judge other creatures, including humans, by what they eat. Animals communicate with each other and eat what is natural and available to them. They are not concerned about human dietary habits.

Animals communicate tolerance, respect, and honoring other beings, including humans. We can learn compassion toward other humans from animals and realize we are all doing the best we can.

The guilt and judgment we feel over others who have a different view than ours about what they eat can separate us from each other. Animal communication can connect and educate us.

Animal communicators do their best to prevent needless pain and suffering to individuals of any species. Many animal communicators strive to find organic, well-treated plants and animals for their nutritional needs and advocate humane conditions for all.

Reverence, honoring, asking permission to eat another’s body, prayer, loving intent, blessing and thanking plants, animals, and all life for their nurturance, are aspects of the spiritual approach to eating that many animal communicators practice. Animals appreciate being treated with respect.

Each of us has her own path to follow, own lessons, karma, life purpose, and sacred contracts with others. We can’t judge what others do.

We have the right to keep private what we eat, drink, think, and how we live our lives. Listing dietary habits in the communicator directory can lead to negative judgment and discrimination. To know something about individual animal communicators before you do business with them, ask them.

Some religious groups have no dietary restrictions and eat everything, viewing it as God-given.

Some people believe that eating is something we don’t have to do if we have our energy systems aligned right or if we have enough faith in our Creator to supply our bodies with what we need from the air we breathe.

Food includes anything we assimilate: attitudes, thoughts, activities, air, water, sunshine, companionship, as well as what we ingest by mouth.

Spiritually uplifting foods which nourish the physical body raise our spiritual level.

Eating is a celebration of the miracle of universal life. Eating allows us to re-affirm our Oneness, our connectedness, to All.

For more info click: www.animaltalk.net www.specieslinkjournal.com

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Compiled and edited by Suzan Vaughn & Penelope Smith with contributions by order of appearance from Dexter Del Monte, Kumari Mullin, Nedda Wittels, Sage Lewis, Griffin Kanter, April Prager, Lisa Shaw, Jenny Shone, Diane O’Callahan, Elizabeth Anglin, Charmaine LaBold, Joanna Seere, Shirley Scott, Denise Schultz, Thomas Cheng, Morgine Jurdan, Mary J. Getten, Betty Lewis, Karen Booream, Maureen Harmonay, Karen Craft, Leta Worthington, Anita Curtis, Lisa Fraser, Barbara Molloy, Teresa Wagner, Jeri Ryan, Nancy Windheart, Michele Bustamante, Tim Link, Conny Seydlitz-Oberdorfer, Amber Donkey through Dawn Hayman, Java through Sage Lewis, Barbara Molloy, Gaye Rock, Hefernan through Leiah Bowden, Buffalo through Lyn Benedict, Diane Samsel, Kathi Sherburne, Karen Craft, Laurie Moore & Jessie Justin Joy, Elizabeth Severino

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 Responses to Vegetarian or Omnivore?

  1. Erin/IAm says:

    Great subject…open feedback…excellent wrap up!!! Very interesting & quite enjoyed.
    Thank you for the ‘brain food’ & Good Journey!!!:)

    • Marko says:

      Thanks Erin, I agree, I feel this articles perspective is not well known even in the spiritual community & I’m happy to share it & glad you enjoyed & felt it of value.

      Magical blessings,
      -Marko

  2. Vegetarianism is fast becoming the norm in the present age. It is not only in India that people are adopting vegetarianism as a way of life, rather people across the globe are also transitioning to a vegetarian way of life in terms of meals.

  3. James D. Smith says:

    What surprises me sometimes about these discussions is that we aren’t talking much about the sentience of plants. Since the publication back in the 70′s of The Secret Life of Plants, and in research done since then, it seems pretty clearly established to me that consciousness permeates right down to the molecular level, so it really does come down to where you draw the line.

    Is it particularly noble to avoid killing animals, but still survive and thrive by unemotionally hacking plants off at the roots, or dragging them from their resting places in the ground, or popping the berries that are their nascent offspring into our mouths?

    I think the folks who practice mindfulness and thankfulness for whatever nourishes them, and beyond the physical realm, also give thanks for whatever they nourish in turn, will have the most centered and ‘wholly’ lives in the end.

    Thanks for this chance to comment; blessings to all.

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